This
interview with Boy George was taken from Issue 13 (December 1994) of Literally.
Your most public
meeting was when you presented the Best Single Award to Neil at the 1986
BPI Awards?
Yeah. That was just after I wasn't very well. I wasn't feeling
very good, because I was still quite shaky, and I remember that he was quite
sweet. And I remember that a lot of people cheered. And I remember people
mentioning something about him slagging me off.
Do
you remember the first time you heard one of the PSB Records?
"West End Girls" was the first one. I thought it was really
good. I was really surprised. I think Helen played it to me. Then for
a while I wasn't really sure about their music, and then I went
to the show at Wembley - the one with all the Derek Jarman footage. I
think the Derek Jarman footage really turned me on to them. I thought
it was really funny. I was sitting next to these women with their kids,
and this shot came on of two men kissing and I thought "that's
fabulous", and I remember this women moving her child's head
in the opposite direction, and it kind of made me want to stand up and
cheer. I thought the show was really good, the worst thing about it though
[laughs] was the tapes.
Well
of course they don't exactly use tapes...
Well, technology. It's the same thing. Lets not split hairs. It's
only semantics at the end of the day. It would all be the same thing to
Eddie Van Halen, wouldn't it?
Actually
Van Halen use backing tracks.
Exactly. So everybody does. So it's all a load of old bollocks
really. What you resist, persists in life. It's just whether your
shows are good, and your records are good.
When
they were first having hits, and you only really knew them from their
videos and so on, what did you think they were like?
I thought they really calculated everything they did. That it was all
strategically planned. And I thought that they were very precise about
everything like the artwork, the way they looked on TV, the videos. Kind
of cold in some ways but that changed when I saw their gig. And also the
other things is, I'm a bit like a 14-year old girl when it comes
to music. Once I've met the person, and I know that they're
alright, then the music become very different for me.
Which
of their songs do you like the best?
I like Domino Dancing best. I love the video to it. And I love [sings]
"Love Comes Quickly whatever you do". And "I like Go West"
- I had an exclusive preview of that. And the new single is good and "West
End Girls" I like. And "What Have I Done To Deserve This?"
and "Being Boring".
Is
there any songs that you don't like?
I don't like the way that U2 song goes into that other song. Didn't
like that at all. It's camp, but I don't like it.
How
did you fist hear about the idea of you working with them on "The
Crying Game"?.
My manager called and said that he'd spoken to Neil, and asked
me how I felt about working with the Pet Shop Boys. I said I'd
love to work with them, it had never sprung to my mind before, but when
Tony mentioned it I thought "yeah, that's really interesting"
and I got really excited about it. It wasn't like I was thinking
"will the film be big?" or "will it be a hit?". I
just thought it was a nice thing to do, and I wondered what it would sound
like.
Did
you know the song at all?
No, I didn't, but when I listened to the cassette I thought "yeah,
I can do this, I can make it my own". But I wondered what the Pet
Shop Boys' music for it would be like, because the original was
quite slow.
The
first thing you did was go out to lunch together wasn't it?
Yes and we didn't really talk about the record. We gossiped about
everyone else in the music industry: "You know who's doing
what with whom?" It was a bit like that, really, my manager came,
and I don't think he could handle is at all. Neil and Chris are
like a double act. Neil's the Oscar Wilde-ish Cecil Beaton type,
very dry and whitty and Chris is kind of a little ragamuffin; naughty
hands-in-the-money-jar type. I remember thinking "these two are mad".
The things Chris was coming out with...
Then
you saw the film?
Yeah. Neil said that I'd definitely love the film so I went to
a preview. I though they must like it to be involved, because they seem
to be pretty fussy about what they do. I liked it, but it wasn't
until after the record had been out in England, and then had been released
in America, and I was doing at interview with the Washington post, that
this guy started pointing out the parallels between my life and the life
of Jaye in the movie. I can't believe that I had never thought
about it, but I honestly never had, and then suddenly I realised: it's
me and Marilyn! There we are in the movie!... And then I thought that
Neil Jordan must have done it deliberately: that I was the cherry on the
cake.
What
was it like when you recorded the song?
It was so relaxed, it was ridiculous. It was overrelaxed, almost. I was
really surprised Neil could play the piano. I though he was just the singer.
I was really impressed. What was funny was that I spent a lot of time
on the vocal, because I wanted it to be really good, and then I said to
Neil "I think it's done now". And he said "I'll
call you tomorrow, and maybe you can come in and do some more". and
I thought "No! I've done it!", and when he phoned me
I said "I like it - I don't want to do it again". And
then he was out in a club and he said to fat Tony: "Well, I asked
him to come and sing it again and he said no!". But then he said
"but he was right"
You
weren't sure about the finished song at first, were you?
I thought it was really weird. I thought my vocal wasn't loud enough,
but then that's what I always think when I hear a mix: typical
egomaniac. But then I listen to it a few times on a good system and I
really like it. And everyone I played it to loved it.
Are
there plans for you to do a song with the Pet Shop Boys again?
Yeah, I hope so. A couple of songs, if they have time. I'd like
to write some stuff with them. I think that would be interesting, because
I've never written with another artist of their calibre. I'd
like to do another ballad, and I would like to do a fast song. I've
got one idea which I think would be really good. But at the moment I'm
working on my autobiography and that is my priority, every thought I'm
being hassled by everyone to make a record. I'd rather wait and
make sure that I get it right. I've spent too much of my time doing
things, and my new year's resolution was to finish things and do
them properly.
Have
you written anything about Neil and Chris in your book?
Yeah. They will be mentioned at the end, when I say what I've been
doing, and when I give my thoughts about everything that's has
happening while I've been writing it.
You
Have also been doing some DJing , haven't you?
Yeah. There's a thing called Pushca and they do these raves every
so often, and I do the chill room, I play pop.
Do
you ever play any Pet Shop Boys records?
Yeah, I play "What Have I Done To Deserve This?", and sometime
"West End Girls" and "Domino Dancing". I try to do
my set all on seven-inch and so I hunt around, building up my collection.
Most Sundays I go off to different markets and see what I can get on vinyl.
I brought the "What Have I Done To Deserve This?" seven-inch
last week at Camden market. For two quid. But it wasn't scratched.
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