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Pet Shop Boys singer has a theory about how Oasis are the Nineties' Stock,
Aitken and Waterman, and, as Andrew Smith hears, he's written a song about
homoerotic lorry drivers. Hello, spaceboy
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B-side of your new single is a brilliant but very strange song called
"The Truck Driver And His Mate". What might all that be about then?
NT:
Its title was inspired by the old Yorkie adverts, which used to say something
like "big enough for the truck driver and his mate". They had this built-in
homoerotic innuendo which I always thought was an incredible way to market
a chocolate bar. It also sounds like a gay porno movie. Do you
think you're camp?
NT:
Personally or professionally? I think I am a bit camp. And professionally
I think we do things that are camp, but mostly they're unintentional.
On the last tour we did in South America and Australia we did "Go West"
wearing silver hats which lit up. They were Chris' idea. Chris is from
Blackpool, and whether he likes it or not he has an instinctive sense
of showbiz - he saw the hats on Holiday On Ice or something. I think camp
has a more serious side to it too. It has a type of sincerity.
You confirmed your sexuality in Attitude magazine in August '94. Why didn't
you do it before?
NT:
I never said anything in the past because when we first became successful
we were very much a pop group with a wide following, and I think it is
essential to not give yourself away completely. To some extent people
are projecting what they want you to be on to you, and therefore you can
be all sorts of different things at the same time. So why then?
NT:
By the time I did this interview it was around my 40th birthday, I felt
happy to talk about it, and I thought our audience had changed. And I
thought Attitude was a good magazine. On a more practical side, I barely
had a gay sex life in the Eighties, anyway. If you'd been in my bed you
wouldn't even have known. What the strangest fan mail you've ever
had?
NT:
I get stalked by people, particularly Germans. They tend to follow you
home and hang round for eight months. What exactly is domino dancing?
NT:
That came from when we were staying at a hotel in the middle of nowhere
in St Lucia years ago. In the evening there was nothing to do except play
dominoes; this friend of ours always used to beat us, and he used to do
this celebratory dance. Are you a new lad?
NT:
No. I hate it, new laddishness. I think it's pathetic. What's
the new Pet Shop Boys album going to sound like?
NT:
Well its much warmer-sounding than our previous records. The rhythms are
warmer - a lot of it sounds quite latin, and some of it sounds quite disco
- and the songs are uplifting. There's some love songs. It's not Britpop.
It's quite an international-sounding album. Are you and Chris
pulling in different musical directions?
NT:
We always have done. That's what the Pet Shop Boys is, basically. Chris
listens to more dance music and I listen to more classical, so you end
up with dance music with strings. What one thing do you like that
he hates?
NT:
:He hates any kind of guitar music, although he loves Oasis. He likes
them because they have that emotional pull that we like.
Do you like them?
NT:
I think Oasis are the Stock Aitken and Waterman of the Nineties, in that
they churn out loads of songs that are highly derivative, but also exhilarating
and fresh sounding. I'm sure Noel Gallagher wouldn't thank me for that,
but in retrospect I think you can say that SAW wrote some of the best
songs of the Eighties. David Bowie; why?
NT:
Originally because he asked us to remix "Hello Spaceboy" when I met him
backstage at his Wembley Arena concert. I made the second verse by cut-ting
up the words of "Space Oddity" as a joke reference to the cut-up thing,
and it's now the third Major Tom sang. When he was on the Brits I wanted
him to do "Space Oddity", "Ashes To Ashes" and "Hello Spaceboy".
Do you rate him?
NT:
Yeah... we really undervalue someone who is as wonderful a singer and
performer as Bowie. He has the most fantastic presence on stage, and seeing
Bowie on stage these days you're seeing a master of that particular art.
In any other medium he'd be more respected. What about Tony Blair?
NT:
I met him at a party, and I thought he was Tony Banks. I think he's a
very nice person. He's really into music. I spoke to him at The Brits,
and he was looking really thrilled because he'd just been talking to David
Bowie. He tries to deal with the reality bit, but he has now entered the
stage of media obsession. Are you, as someone who comes from Newcastle
Upon Tyne, following the fortunes of the North-east football clubs?
NT:
No. I really hate foot-ball. I do know Newcastle United aren't doing well,
though [the interview took place during Newcastle's poor run of results
in early March]. Have you noticed that footballers seem to be
getting better looking?
NT:
No, because I haven't noticed footballers. Do you follow fashion?
NT:
Obviously I am a slave to fashion. If you were a woman for the
day what would you do?
NT:
It'd be great to be a woman for the day. I sometimes think that at the
age of 60 it would be great if you changed your sex, it would be like
being reborn. I'd go shopping for new clothes, and it would be interesting
to give birth. Would you try to seduce Neil Tennant?
NT:
Oh no. I don't think he'd be my type. What do you think your enemies
think about you?
NT:
Cold. -. pompous... arrogant.. - and shallow. That's what I'd say about
me Pet Shop Boys' new single "Before" is released in April
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