Only a few weeks ago, they decided to accept an offer
to play around South America, and then added dates in Australia and Singapore.
They have just begun to rehearse the music.
and Chris sit in the lounge next door. Neil drinks tea; Chris drinks nothing.
When we have finished talking, the two of them will disappear in a taxi.
They are off to see Shirley Bassey. Before that, I ask some questions
about the tour. The answers given below subsequently appear in the Discovery
do the last two Pet Shop Boys tours, in 1989 and 1991, seem to you now?
I remember the first tour being very enjoyable and exciting, because it
was the first time we had gone on tour. There were times when we were
doing it when we were disappointed with the sound. And the last tour,
t remember as being slightly more exhausting, and the atmosphere being
slightly more frenetic when you're in the center of it, because there
were so many people on the tour. Because of that, it wasn't as much fun,
but we were very excited about the production.
were you trying to do with those two productions?
Well, before the Derek Jarman tour we hadn't toured because we didn't
see any reason for us to tour in a naturalistic way. The Derek Jarman
tour was an attempt to get round that by putting on a kind of film mufti-media
show. And then the second tour was the theatrical performance we'd always
wanted to do. We wanted to define a way the Pet Shop Boys could perform
live, without turning into a rock band. Other groups who make their music
using synthesizers and sequences in the studio always tend to turn into
rock bands when they play live, and it never sounds as good. Chris: [to
Neil] Isn't that what you always try and get its to do? [they laugh]
do you turn into a rock band on this tour?
No, we're still the same, but the attitude of the performance is different.
We're more free-spirited on this tour, We do what we want. We party on
down. It's not a totally choreographed, staged and rehearsed show. I suppose
it is more rock'n'roll in its attitude. You get to express yourself. [Laughs]
And take your clothes off.
It's still got pretentious elements. But since the last tour, we've done
four one-off shows, and we decided we'd do something more like those.
So this show is much less structured in a performance way. And we've quite
enjoyed those because...
...You can drink before you go on, during, and after the show. As opposed
to just after the show with the theatrical performances.
when people look at you on stage, can they safely assume that you are
both slightly sizzled?
I most certainly won't be.
Neil's got to perform. I can get away with it. Actually, even during the
last show I used to have a drink during my moments offstage.
During "Rent" you used to have a gin and tonic, didn't you?
Yeah. So I used to start then. This time I'll probably start before we
[with mock disapproval] Oh, I think I'm going to be locked in my bedroom
when we're not traveling or on stage. I don't want to know anything that's
happening. I'm going to take War And Peace with me, 10 read, because I
imagine I'm going to have a lot of time to myself.
how different is this new show?
On the first and second tours we'd had so little experience of being on
stage that one of the rationales of what we did was to have performers
around us, to take the heat of us.
And [laughs] we've still got those. And obviously there's films and back
projections, as always.
As we're going to places we're never been before, we're using again the
Derek Jarman films, because they've only ever been seen in Hong Kong,
Japan and Britain. And Howard Greenhalgh has been making some films as
well, based around the imagesry of our last few singles. The starting
point of using film this time was that we were going to play "Absolutely
Fabulous", because during "Absolutely Fabulous" the lead
vocals - which are from the television show - are on the screen.
you always seared before now to go on stage without...?
...Without knowing exactly what to do every single moment of the show.
Yes, I was scared about that. I loved the last show because you just did
it, like a job: sit down, sing "So Sorry I Said", get in the
cage... You knew what you were doing. This time I will personally find
it exhausting, because all moments of the show I will be thinking "oh,
Cod, what do I do now? I can't walk over there again - I just did it about
one minute ago.
I think Neil should be practicing in front of a mirror with a microphone.
Neil: I think you might find I will be. Chris: Actually, isn't that one
of the reasons you re meant to want to became a rock singer - to do all
I don't know. I've never quite seen the appeal.
do have dancers, don't you?
Yes. They're Brazilian go-go dancers. They'll come on and off stage, but
they're not acting out scenarios, or pretending to be In a street or lighting
in a nightclub or anything. They're dancing. So it doesn't have any theatrical
distance. In the past 'we were always removed from the audience by theatrical
convention. This time, we are us on stage. It was always very difficult
on [he last tour when you'd see people in the crowd waving and going mad,
and you had to pretend you didn't notice them.
So this show is more interactive. (Laughs) It's the Nineties.
We'd been to the Sound Factory bar in New York in July.
Oh, that's right. We went to the Sound Factory bar in New York and we
liked the fact that they bad live drummers playing along with the music,
and they had these naked men go-go dancing with flags around them. In
fact we totally took both ideas the percussion and the dancers - from
We didn't want trained dancers, because they can't dance naturally. When
they try to dance naturally. They're embarrassing. For this kind of dancing
you need people used to dancing in clubs.
We wanted dancers who would encourage the audience to dance.
this time there will be no qualms about offering the audience a cheery
thumbs up whenever you feel like it?
Oh, far from it. There'll be clapping going on, We'll probably split the
audience up into sections and make them sing along. It's going to be more
like a Wham! concert, I think. Neil is going to run from side to side,
I certainly am not. I'm not going to run from side to side.
Well, walk aloofly with your chin in the air.
will the stage look like?
We have a flight of stairs which light up, and a platform at the back.
So there will be lots of entrances.
As ever, it's about entrances and exits. Some of the design is based around
the pointy bats from 'Can You Forgive Her?". We're selling pointy
hats as merchandise, and we're hoping the audience will wear them. I'd
love to see 8,000 people in pointy hats. It'd be a great feeling.
We're wearing some of our costume greatest hits. Again. No-one where we
are going has ever seen them.
It's a very environmentally-friendly tour. We're recycling bits and pieces
from the past.
We wear some of the costumes from our recent videos. Some of them you
can't really wear live - we wore the "Can You Forgive Her?"
costumes on Top Of The Pops, and they're very very difficult to move in.
But we will certainly be doing some dressing op.
did you choose which songs you wanted to play?
We wanted to do the four songs we did early this year at the London Palladium.
And then we 'vent through our records and chose uplifting songs with a
party sort of vibe. Particularly as we knew we were going to have congas
playing along, we decided we wanted a Latin dance vibe. It didn't take
long to choose the songs.
We made a tape of the ones we wanted to play. It got a bit boring in the
middle, so we subsequently look out "The Theater" and the Hacienda
version of "Violence". The songs go right from when we started
until now. We're doing one slightly obscure B-side. But we're also playing
a lot of hits. I think it's good if there's an element of familiarity.
true, isn't it, that a couple of your songs now slip into unexpected cover
Yes, but it's meant to be a surprise. You don't want to read it in the
Sometimes you have a song, and you realize that it has a chord change
which is just like the chord change of another song, so you go into it.
It's fun for us.
They're songs we really like. When we played one of them before Boy George
said 'oh, you're just taking the piss, aren't you?' but they are both
songs we like.
Yes, it's all live in that there's nothing on tape. Chris plays some keyboards,
and the synthesizer sequences are triggered in real time. All my singing
is live, although one or two backing vocals are sampled.
you looking forward to actually being on tour?
Yes. That's why we're doing it.
Also, it's going to be a very nice time of year where we're going, so
we're going to extend our summer until Christmas.
Also, we're going to places we haven't been before, so it will be really
exciting. It's all places we've never ever set foot in.
I think this show reflects how we've changed. We're more liberated. I
think we're more liberated as people.
[to Chris] Is that meant seriously? It's quite nice if it is, actually.
[shrugs] Well, we are more liberated.
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