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March
3rd, 1994.
A Secret Studio In The Countryside.
Ian Wright
and Chris Lowe have been here since midday. Ian Wright is one of England's
most famous and celebrated footballers - he plays for the national team
and is the most regular goal scoria for the club team which Chris supports,
Arsenal. Last year Chris CO-wrote and produced his. First pop single,
"Do The Right Thing". So far today they have listened to one
of the backing tracks Chris has recorded for what they hope will become
Ian Wright's second single, and they have played a short game of tennis.
Now Chris directs Pet Shop Boys programmer Pete Gleadall to sample the
vocal from a current dance music white label over one of Chris's backing
tracks, to give them inspiration for a vocal line. They listen to the
result.
"This
is really fast when you compare it to old records," sighs Chris.
"Records just get faster and faster." He tries to adjust the
high chair on which he is sitting, but fails. "I'm not very good
at technology," he mutters. "I'm crap at it."
Ian
Wright is wearing a Stussy cap, an Air Jordan top, white umbro socks,
Jordan 23 sneakers and unnamed black tracksuit trousers. Like Chris, he
is sipping a glass of champagne. "These sessions are all about champagne,"
Chris says.
They
wonder what to do next. "Can I do a nasty record for my own personal
collection?" wonders Ian, and throws out a few obscene lines by way
of example. "Let me do an Ice Cube thing." Next he pretends
to be Barry White. "Barry White doesn't sing," he says, "he's
sleep-talking and they've recorded it.''
Ian
Wright steps up to the microphone, champagne still in hand. The track
plays through couple of times, but he is too nervous to sing anything.
"Just sing a couple of lines from a Prince record you like, just
to get into the swing of it," suggests Steve Kutner. Steve Kutner
is the record company person who put Ian and Chris together, and he also
CO-writes Ian Wright's lyrics.
Ian
Wright still looks hesitant, and sings nothing. "This is the most
difficult bit," encourages Chris. "I can't just sing 'you don't
have to be beautiful to be m~ girl"' says Wright. "What are
some James Brown lines?" Steve and Chris chat amongst themselves.
"Can you shut up, pleas??" snaps Ian theatrically. "I'm
trying to work." He does begin to sing a Prince song after all. "'You
don't have to be rich..."' he croons, and then breaks off. "But
it helps," he says. "Ask Chris Lowe." Then he starts getting
into it, belting out the first verse of Prince's "Kiss" over
and over. It sounds good, especially when he does a long, loud Prince-style
roar. But he's not happy. "I want to sing something else," he
says. "I can't sing Prince. I'm not good enough."
Ian
and Steve try to think up some lyrics. Steve makes one particularly obscene,'
suggestion. "That's disgusting, man," splutters Ian "You
kiss your mother with that mouth." Steve stares back through; him.
"Give me a pen," he says. "I've got some inspiration."
"Hey!" says Ian. "Just looking at me! Whereabouts did you
look?" Steve writes out some words. "Block capitals, man,"
instructs Ian, laughing. "I'm a footballer! Block capitals, best
wishes, all the best." When Steve writes "Monday" Ian says
"it's not 'Monday' - write 'Maaahnday'." Four lines are completed.
"Let's do it, man. Let's hit it, man," says Ian, and when the
music starts up again he dances and shadowboxes. "'The phone starts
ringing on a Monday,"' he sings, finding a simple but effective tune.
When he reaches the line "it's fatal on the hot line" he stops.
"I can't say 'hot line'," he tells Steve. "It's not good
for me." They debate some alternatives, but most of them are rude.
"I need something with soul," Ian says. "I've got kids
looking u to e.
He
sings the lines through again, not stopping this time. "Every time
I want to sing," he says once he has finished, "I want to burp."
They laugh. "Have you got anymore lyrics?" he asks Steve. "No,"
sighs Steve. "Sing that round again. You think these things grow
on trees?" Ian asks for some advice on his delivery. "Sing it
normal the first two," suggests Steve, "and then the third time
give it the big 'I Am..."' "I can't help it," he replies.
He pulls his trousers up to his knees and sings all four lines again:
"the phone starts ringing on a Monday it's piercing through my heart
and soul it 's fatal on the hot line my baby takes the toll". When
he gets into it, his voice is sometimes remarkably pure and soulful.
They
think about the chorus. Steve suggests that Ian Wright simply says "get
on the move". He tries it, and it seems to work. "You know when
you said 'get on the move'?" he tells Steve. "I thought of it
first, so it was my idea." And he grins. They take a break, and Chris
plays us the demo version of "Absolutely Fabulous", with just
the Pet Shop Boys backing track and samples from the TV programed. "I
like Dawn French," says Ian Wright. "I fancy her." He sings,
under his breath 'absolutely! fabulous!". "It's catchy,"
he says. "It's good you can make a record you wouldn't normally make
because it's for charity," says Chris. "Like this one,"
says Ian. "No," sighs Chris. "This is cred. Harder to make,
unfortunately." They run through the chorus a few more times, then
take a break. All the champagne is gone, so they move onto white wine.
Ian talks about football. "Man United at Wembley again," he
says. "Spawny northern bastards .I'm gutted." Chris fiddles
with the track a little more. "I think I'll make the bass a bit heavier."
"Yeah," nods Ian. "A bit more Dawn French." Literally
leaves them to it, for they will be at work for several hours yet. Earlier
that afternoon, however, Ian Wright had answered a few questions...
When
did you first meet Chris?
I
met him through Jill [the Pet Shop Boys manager]. And we had been talking
about making a record, and because Chris is an Arsenal fan and that, someone
suggested that he might, you know, do something to help me on the way.
And once we mentioned it to him he was just fantastic from day one, and
I'm really privileged.
Had
you already known that one of the Pet Shop Boys came to watch Arsenal?
Um,
yeah I'd heard that one of them did. I didn't know exactly which one,
to be honest. Because if you look at them both you'd not look at them
and say "one of them's a football fan", if you saw them
on-stage.
Do
players usually know which celebrities come to see them play?
Like
me, they've just got an idea. Like, Kevin Costner's a big Arsenal fan,
and if he's around England he comes to an Arsenal game. Clive James and
that. Roger Daltrey comes there.
What
did you think of Chris before you met him?
Well,
when you see them on the telly and you see him playing piano and that,
he doesn't do much to give you an insight into him,
does
he?
He
just stands there, plays it. Like, the Brit. awards was just typical Chris,
man. He just came on and played the thing, and when it finished, walked
off with his hands in his pockets. It was so funny - when you know him
it's just brilliant the way he can change the way he is on-stage to the
way he is offstage. He can just close himself off from that world. Outside
of it he can just be a normal person. When I see him up there I say "it's
Chris! Look at him! I can't believe it!" When he's off of it he's
just one of the lads and I like him like that.
And
you thought he would be...?
I
thought he would be a typical...what them pop stars are like. They're
very on their pedestal kind of thing. The big "I Am...". I'm
not saying I thought Chris would be like this, but that's what I get off
pop Stars generally. They're up there and you're down here. "I'm
this talented guy and I don't really want to talk to you". You get
that kind of vibe from a lot of them when you see them. I wouldn't like
to name no names but there were certain groups now that I brushed past
at the Brit. awards that gave it the big "I Am..." and it was
quite nice to know that Chris is a million times bigger than them and
he doesn't give it all that. It was such a pleasant surprise to see that
he's just a normal fellow.
When
did you first meet up?
It
was at a restaurant in Kensington. When he came I released which one it
was, obviously. It was the technical one. Because I knew Neil anyway.
If I saw a picture of them both, because Chris always has something covering
his face or has glasses on. I knew Neil's face, so I was "oh yes,
it's the other one". We had lunch and that, and I released we had
a lot in common. We laughed at the same things and we had the same kind
of sense of humor. It was kind of like a house on fire thing.
What
did you have in common?
I
don't know. Cars. Obviously football. And music, we're into that housy
rap kind of thing. That underground thing. It was quite surprising that
Chris was into that, because like I say If you see him on-stage you would
never ever think that he's into that kind of thing. It's just another
string to his bow, I suppose.
What
did he ask you that day?
I
can't remember. The main thing was that he didn't want it to be one of
those run-of-the-mill footballers' records. Just making a record and hoping
that it's going to do well just off the back of I'm a footballer. He wanted
to know that I was wholly into wanting to make it, and wanting to make
it properly. Which was something I was into anyway. I wanted to make a
decent record, and we did.
Why
did you think you could do it?
[laughs]
I don't know. We didn't know. We came up to the studio and we were trying
to think of a line so that we could find out If I could sing or not. The
line was "second to none", and I sang it a couple of times and
then I really got into it, and then they released I could sing and even
I got the confidence to think I could do something. But even now I haven't
got the confidence that I've got playing football playing football I've
got a lot of confidence in what I could do because it's my first
thing. Doing the singing I have to have a lot of reassurance from people
like Chris and Steve.
So
you hadn't tried singing at all before?
No,
never. I mean, obviously I'd had a couple of karaokes, but everybody does
them.
What
had you sung?
"Just
My Imagination". I had to do it my first England squad with Graham
Taylor. We all went out to see Buddy', and we went to a disco and then
we went to a hotel round near Victoria. I think it was the Grosvenor.
And when we went in there was this massive table with loads of seats and
there was a television - this was the first time I'd ever saw a karaoke
so I was thinking, "What's that telly? Surely we can't be watching
a game on the opposition this time of night?" Then this guy started
to go round taking down what people were going to sing and I thought it
was optional and I said "no way am I going to sing" and then
Graham Taylor said to me that I had to sing and that I had to sing first.
By the time I got over the shyness I didn't sing first, I had to sing
about third, and they said I was the best at it which was quite pleasing.
Who
was the worst?
Stuart
Pearce. Easily. Don't ask me what he was singing because nobody could
make out what it was. It was embarrassing. And Paul Parker - Paul Parker
sang something to "I Will Survive" in this cockney voice. [Says
in cockney voice] "I Will. Survive. As Long As I Know 'Ow To Love.
I Know I'll Stay alive." It was one of the best nights I've ever
had. Leaving my seat to go over there to sing, I've never had nerves like
that before, no matter how big the game is, the nerves have never been
like that.
When
did you think you'd actually make a pop record?
Steve
mentioned to me, would I be interested in doing one? I said "I don't
know, man because I wasn't confident in myself. [Steve shouts accusing:
"You kept telling Paul Merson you were a brilliant singer!".
"Yeah," replies Ian Wright, "but that's just banter in
the dressing roam."] Once it all got off the floor and I came up
here and sang a couple of things and got used to it, I really seemed quite
good to me and I really enjoyed it.
Chris
prepared some music for you?
Yeah.
He got about four tracks and we picked which one we liked. It was just
really to see what my voice would be like when I first came here. Seeing
whether I should rap or sing. If my voice was crap then I would have rapped.
[Laughs] That's no disrespect to rappers. But it was half-decent - I'm
not saying I'm flipping' Luther Vandross or anything - but because I can
get away with it I sang a song. Were you disappointed that "Do The
Right Thing" wasn't a bigger hit? No. For a first time I was quite
pleased. Because now I've got over that hurdle I'm going into it now knowing
exactly what I want to do with this one.
Did
you always know you'd do a second single?
Chris
always said from the start that we should be thinking about doing another
one anyway. And because the first one never got the recognition it should
have, we're doing this one with the thing in mind to do better.
What
ideas do you have for it?
I
want a kind of world feeling about it, you know. A world peachy feeling.
Sort
of, um, Jamiroquai?
Yeah,
but with a more hard-core bass in it. A really deep bass. Because I do
like to listen to bass when I listen to records. So we've talked about
that. I think this one will be better because we've learned from the last
one.
How
did you write the words for "Do The Right Thing"?
It
was just basically about how I was in football, about not giving up because
it's easy to give up. Steve wrote it with me. I thought it was quite good
but I'm going to put a lot more thought into the next one - it's something
I really so admire, people who can write songs really well.
Can
you remember the first time you heard a Pet Shop Boys record?
Yeah.
The first one that I really took a lot of notice of that I really liked
was "West End Girls". I thought it was an excellent track. And
obviously that one "Go West" is fantastic, because they sing
it on all the terraces.
Did
you own any of their records?
"West
End Girls". That was the only one.
What
were you keener on when you were younger?
Well,
obviously, Bob Marley. Gregory Isaacs. Dennis Brown. Luther Vandross.
Change. All that kind of soul thing. Hi-Tension. All that fast disco thing.
Evelyn "Champagne" King. I was always listening to everything.
My all-time favorite record is that Noel Harrison's "Windmills Of
My Mind" which is a record I'll always listen to. I like George Michael.
When he first came out with Wham! I thought they were really naff, man,
with their hair and all that and Andrew Ridgeley not doing anything. And
then when George Michael wrote things like "A Different Corner"
I had to say: this guy is really good.
What
is your favorite music now?
Obviously
I'm into Prince. Michael Jackson I like - mainly his old stuff. Really
old stuff like "Blues Away" and the Destiny album. Right now
Jodeci have got a CD out that's really good. And jungle, I'm into that
bit. The jungalistic thing. Jungalism. I listen to everything. I listen
to Classic FM 1(10.9. You've been hanging out with Chris too, I believe.
Yeah. He's a good laugh. I always say I'd like to do things in the summer
when I can really - how can I say it without making it sound bad? - not
abuse myself but really have a good time with him. It's just unfortunate
that all the time we're together is mainly during the season. But we're
going to get together and there are going to be fireworks. We're going
to go out with our red paint to paint the town.
You
went to see U2 together, didn't you?
Fantastic,
man. It was great, because Bono -who's another person I really like, in
fact we met them all backstage and they were nice guys and that...
I
understand you were hanging out with Bono and Salman Rushdie?
Yeah,
it was really good, man, because there's two people who I really admire.
I really admire Salman for his stand on The Satanic Verses, and trying
to get over what he feels. It's really sad when a man gets death threats
for writing his opinion. When people start getting killed for their opinion
you're not going to get a lot of people saying things.
What
did you talk about with him?
He's
a Tottenham supporter, isn't he? And he was saying his son is a big fan
of mine, and he was saying he admires me and that, and I was saying how
much I admired him. And with Bono...I mentioned the lyrics in his song
"if you want to kiss the sky you 'd better learn to kneel" and
I asked him about that and he was just saying it was just a religious
and a profane thing. Which I thought was really cool, whatever it meant.
[Laughs] He was saying how when he was growing up he used to look out
for Arsenal, because they were either Arsenal or Man United, the Irish
people. And he mentioned Merse - he knows Merse's name. And I said "I
know you're busy so I'm going to leave" and he said "no, man,
just hang. Just chill out, man". I was quite pleased to meet him,
but Salesman. I've got the ticket at home which I got them to sign - Salesman
Rushdie and Bono meltdown. Bono was signing "Bono Meltdown"
so for a while afterwards when people said "Ian, can you sign this?"
I was writing "Ian Wright, meltdown". I think it just means
melt down, just chill out and ooze out, man. I find that vibe with music
people. Take it easy, man.
So
you went to the Brit. awards?
Yeah.
That was quite good. I was really disappointed because they wanted me
to present one of the awards, but they wanted me to get there at 4 o'clock
and I had to train and do everything. And they wanted me to rehearse for
flipping' three words - ridiculous! I was quite sad about that, but I
was pleased for Gabrielle because she won something and I think she's
quite good. And when I saw Chris up there with all these miners and with
this hat on...and then when he came back into the crowd, no-one would
even know that he'd been up there, and I really like that. I also talked
to Neil - I've met Neil before but I'd never talked to him as long as
I did there. He was asking me about the next record and things like that,
and I was asking him about coming down in that crane and he was saying
how frightened he was, and I was saying "right, I was frightened
looking at you up there". It was exciting. People say to me "what's
it like -making a record and that?" and I've said to them, as much
as I love my sport and what I'm involved with, the time when I'm involved
with the music, just being in the studio with Chris, and going through
different permutations to try and get a song right...I've just had so
many great times. It's a different outlet.
Would
you ever play a concert?
[laughs
at some length] I swear, when I see Bono and all that playing to all them
people and the people are loving it, I do fantasize me being there and
singing, and people being like that. But I don't know. I could not envisage
me doing a concert.
Have
you listened to a lot more Pet Shop Boys records since you've been making
records with Chris?
Like
I said, the main one I listen to is "Go West". I'm very disappointed
that Chris hasn't given me some CDs and things like that, but I'm sure
he might get round to doing it at some stage.
You've
just played tennis with him?
Yeah.
Yeah. I came second. Somebody beat me.
You're
supposed to be good at sport.?
Yeah.
I beat Steve. He's had tonsillitis - that's a great excuse. I've just
come back from a hamstring injury, but I thought it was only fair that
I don't beat him on the first day. I thought, I've got to let Chris beat
me, and then I'll beat him next time. So he beat me 2-0.
What
are his best strokes?
It's
funny. His forearm was really good. His backhand weren't bad. The wind
was really all over the place so it's hard to judge. We'll have to play
in the summer when I've got my bandana and my Agassi gear on, and I'm
really hyped up Connors-style. It's fantastic, man. You can't get into
anything like you can get into tennis.
What
would make it feel like a success?
I
think getting in the top ten. Not getting on Top Of The Pops, because
they wanted to put the last record on Top Of The Pops just because I'd
made the record.
Are
you going to sing any ballads?
Yeah.
I want to sing everything. Well, I want to try everything. If Chris thinks
I'm good enough to do that, I'll do it, because whatever Chris says when
we're in the studio I will do, because he is The Man in there. I love
music and I'm just really privileged that Chris has taken the time for
me to waste his time and him turn it into something. He's weaving it like
Rumplestilt skin! He's really cool about things. He never makes it feel
like "listen, I'm in charge here, son". He listens to everybody's
ideas. I'm really lucky in that respect. He's got a lot of patience with
an amateur, and I really admire him for it. And the amount of work he
puts in the studio on them pianos and that, and the way how he can change
things and put them in different places, it just makes me stand back in
awe really. I don't think I would be comfortable making records with anyone
else.
What
does Chris say to you about Arsenal?
He's
just like any other fan really. Sometimes he gets disappointed with things
which go wrong. He'll ask me things like "Why didn't the boss play
you last night? Were you injured?" and he might say he didn't think
it was a good idea but he'd never say "that was crap and that was
this and that was that". Which is really how he is. He's really quite
placid in that way.
Why
do you think he likes Arsenal?
don't
know.
Why
do people like MilIwall? You have to like them to like them, don't you?
It's like me, the first team I ever saw was MilIwall, so I supported MilIwall
all the way up until now. I don't like them, they're just the team I was
first associated with. I don't know why Chris likes it, but maybe it's
because we win something every other year. We're in Europe, and he likes
a trip to Europe every now and then.
Do
you get pressure from within football not to spend time on things like
this?
Sometimes
the boss [i.e. manager George Graham] will say he doesn't want me doing
too much commercial stuff one week, to get some rest, but other than that
there's no restrictions to it, as long as it's outside the jurisdiction
of football. I finish training, the time is mine.
Did
he tell you what he thought of the record?
Yeah.
He liked the record.
Did
you hand out copies?
Yeah.
I had to give everyone at the club one. It was a nightmlare. All the lads'
misuses liked the record. It was really quite good. It was "guises
one of your CDs for my wife, she likes it". But I know it was really
for them. It's like the man who comes up to you and says "can I have
your autograph? It's for my nephew..."
What
did your teammates think of it?
Well,
that was the thing. Because football and footballers are so critical of
everything you do that's off the main, I was really quite afraid. But
all the players who listened to it loved it. Giggly was singing some lines
to me - I was surprised that he knew it. As soon as Paul Ince heard it
he said he loved it, and people like Lee Sharpe liked it. I thought I
was going to get a bit of stick but I didn't get as much as I thought
I would. Even supporters from up North were saying how much they liked
the record, and everybody always asks me now when I'm making another one.
Do
you think there have ever been any other decent football records?
I
must admit, Chris Waddle and Glenn Hoddle's one was, for me, OK. It was
a good effort. [Laughs) And I must admit, as much as they give it stick,
Gazza's record "Fog On The Tyne" had a good beat. That's about
it. There's not been many good ones. That Arsenal one we did for the cup
was quite good, with that little reggae Tipper Inc., but it didn't get
as much recognition as it should have. I notice you're on the champagne
already... [waves glass] This is another reason why I love Chris so much.
October
1994: Though Chris has several partly-finished collaborations with Ian
Wright on tape, they still haven finished another record together, though
they have been meeting. Earlier this month - on the evening of Arsenal's
3-1 victory over Chelsea - they had dinner and ended up with Newcastle's
Andy Cole and Arsenal's Kevin Campbell at a club. "A fantastic night,"
laughs Chris. But, with the football season underway, and the Pet Shop
Boys off on tour, they have no firm plans to complete a single in the
near future.
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